If you wish to know more of what is takes to build a business, ask a person that actually made it happen not once, but in a couple of successful start-ups (Seesmic being one of them) and one of Europe’s largest tech events (LeWeb): Loic le Meur. I have the pleasure of knowing Loic and there are so many things I can say about him… But what would best summarize Loic as a entrepreneur and company CEO — he is a wonderful mentor, a great person to talk to and engage in debates with, an enthusiast, a doer not a dreamer, a person I sincerely look up to.
We’re sure to come back with a summary of which were the most important things discussed. We’ve sent 3 questions ourselves, but let’s see if Loic will answer
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We’ve read the entire interview and because it is such a valuable experience and lesson all tech entrepreneurs, we believe sharing with everyone is the next big thing.
When asked what will be the next big thing in the tech world, Loic mentioned straight away Mobile. “Local and mobile are going to change small business models, providing new opportunities. Look at what Groupon is doing providing huge number of leads and businesses to small businesses. ” This creates a powerful marketing opportunity for small business: “small businesses will be able to have their own apps. I know a little start-up here in San Francisco that did a last last minute app for hotels, it’s taking advantage of mobile, local and last minute.”
Loic believes that not only now, but in the next couple of years as well, Facebook Commerce is going to be huge. He feels that by adding the social trusted component of your friends everything will change, even the most basic activities, such as buying a new car and spreading the word of how great or bad the results are. “You will be likely to buy that car much more if one of your friends give you a comment about it because you trust him.” Moreover, Facebook is not anonymous, you are now connected with: “people you know” and this will be the definite influence on e-commerce.
Being from France himself and the organizer of the biggest tech event in Europe, Loic fervently supported European entrepreneurial spirit and continuous development. “I think there is a problem in Europe that we lack the history of entrepreneurial culture – but that is changing.”He believes it is not a lack of will on creating a start-up or not having inspirational business ideas, but actually a lack of investment funds and a lot of paper work to overcome. “I think it’s not a question that Europeans want to create start-ups or it’s more difficult to find money, those are not the real reasons in mu opinion.”
What Loic also finds important is the not necessarily wise desire that European entrepreneurs have to lead first locally, and then become international known figure. “Problem is by the time they do this someone in Silicon Valley has targeted the world and raised more money etc. Europeans should also aim at global day one, I know it’s easier said than done, but it’s a question of point of view. If you target Paris and try to lead it, you may succeed but by the time you do someone will be bigger WW likely from Silicon Valley.”
When asked what advice he would give to a first time entrepreneur in the “Planning” Stage, Loic outlined the most important steps an entrepreneur should focus on:
Loic argues that when it comes to marketing in the digital sphere and focusing on Social Media, you don’t need an unlimited cash flow. “You can build a huge following really quickly and incredibly cheaply. Since I get that question all the time, I recorded a series of 30 short videos for small businesses to learn social networking and how they can build their brands using it http://www.buildyourownbrand.tv/”
Ben Rooney: But isn’t mobile already the Next Big Thing?
Ben Rooney: What comes next Loic?
Loic Le Meur: Local and mobile are going to change small business models, providing new opportunities
Loic Le Meur: Look at what Groupon is doing providing huge number of leads and businesses to small businesses
Ben Rooney: Real time seems to me to be really important
Loic Le Meur: But small businesses will be able to have their own apps. I know a little startup here in SF that did a last last minute app for hotels, it’s taking advantage of mobile, local and last minute. I think it’s hotel now or something, the idea is to book a room very very last minute, like you need one in an hour. For example if you’re at a dinner and don’t want to drive back home.
Comment From David
Will Facebook become the biggest marketplace in the future? What are your thoughts on the future of marketing, especially marketing offline business through online channels?
Loic Le Meur: FCommerce is going to be huge for sure (Facebook commerce). Adding the social trusted component of your friends is what changes everything, like who from your friends have bought a car you’re looking at. You will be likely to buy that car much more if one of your friends give you a comment about it because you trust him
Loic Le Meur: Facebook is not anonymous and it’s people you know, so it will definitely be huge on ecommerce, I would really recommend investing on facebook commerce
Loic Le Meur: a friend of mine actually reviewed the main solutions a few days ago http://www.thomascrampton.com/infographic/f-commerce-facebook/
Comment From yann
why is Europe so weak when it comes to developing new techs and the next google and facebook of the world? Do Europeans lack the entrepreneurial gene?
Ben Rooney: I think there is a problem in Europe that we lack the entrepreneurial culture – but I think that is changing, As I travel around Europe I see no lack of people wanting to become entrepreneurs …
Loic Le Meur: My favorite question
Loic Le Meur: I think it’s not a question that europeans want to create startups or it’s more difficult to find money, those are not the real reasons IMO
Ben Rooney: There are institutional problems too. I was talking to a German entrepreneur who said there are 91,000 pieces of legislation concerned with running a business in Germany…
Ben Rooney: He couldn’t start up in a garage (like Google) because once he got beyond 5 employees he would have to have separate toilets for men and women.
Loic Le Meur: It’s more a cultural issue to me, european entrepreneurs (or would be entrpreneurs) are too focused on the risks, while in Silicon Valley people don’t care much about failure. “Start, if you fail it’s ok, you can try again”
Ben Rooney: Good point…
Ben Rooney: I think this is changing, but cultures change slowly – a lot slower than technologies
Loic Le Meur: Also, another cultural issue, it’s about ambition. In Europe most entrepreneurs want to lead locally, in their country or their city first, then roll out internationally. Problem is by the time they do this someone in Silicon Valley has targeted the world and raised more money etc. Europeans should also aim at global day one, I know it’s easier said than done, but it’s a question of point of view. If you target Paris and try to lead it, you may succeed but by the time you do someone will be bigger WW likely from Silicon Valley
Comment From Florian
Looking back, you moved to the US to launch Seesmic. Do you believe that the US is a better place to launch your startup?
Loic Le Meur: I have to be honest, yes.
Ben Rooney: Why?
Loic Le Meur: I came to Silicon Valley 4 years ago thinking “let’s go there for a few years and see” and now I decided to stay, my green card is coming
Loic Le Meur: so it comes down to
Comment From Vincent, French in London
Do you believe that you could still have launched Seesmic in Paris or London and made it a a success?
Loic Le Meur: 2. all the people and conversations here are pretty much about startups and tech, like it or not, but you feel like on a university campus all year long, that stimulates you
Loic Le Meur: 3. all the main players are here, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Salesforce HQ. While in Europe if you talk to them it’s mostly people selling ads… so you don’t get the same quality of contacts and speed of partnerships
Ben Rooney: Ironic that in this the most virtual of businesses it comes down to physical presence.
Loic Le Meur: You can succeed in Europe, don’t get me wrong, I launched and sold 4 companies there, my conference LeWeb is a huge success and a business, but to your question, I think you have a higher chance to succeed here, at least for now.
Loic Le Meur: oh and one last comment: european entrepreneurs should stop copying what is made in silicon valley, it is killing european innovation. Here if you copy, no one wants to talk to you
In Europe, it’s “OK” and some people even say it’s great business. True, but killing innovation
Comment From Gren
Your point about a lot of regulation in Europe has some validity, but if this was the main issue then we wouldn’t see localised clusters of innovation, which we do in Europe here and there. We saw a load of startups in Cambridge in the 1980s, Cambridge had the same regulations as the rest of the UK.
Loic Le Meur: Yes Gren, but it’s very local unfortunately
Loic Le Meur: Look for example at HR. This was killing me when I had startups in Europe
Ben Rooney: I think one problem we have in Europe is a rush to legislate and regulate
Loic Le Meur: Hiring people in different countries in Europe is nightmare, you have different social laws and context, things you need to care about, often you need to have a local business or establishment say in Germany, if you’re from France. Nightmare.
Loic Le Meur: Europe doesn’t really exist for hiring people europe wide, it’s all different…
Ben Rooney: Loic – is this a role for the EU?
Loic Le Meur: yes, totally, but problem is all Countries are competing against each other. Look how Cameron and Sarkozy want the tech innovation in their countries. If that’s Europe then there isn’t any Europe really…
Parminder Bahra: Mayel @ Babelverse suggests clusters might be a bad thing…
Comment From Mayel @Babelverse
Now that you have moved to the Valley, aside from all its obvious advantages, don’t you agree that people there have a tendency of thinking “inside the box” in terms of what type of projects to pursue, especially creating products for the early adopter crowd instead of global/universal projects.
Loic Le Meur: @babelverse, true, but I don’t see much of a problem with that
Loic Le Meur: If the early adopters take it, then next step is will it reach masses, or it dies.
Comment From JEF
EU: it is just an additional layer of regulations… it should be a replacement, it is not!
Loic Le Meur: Facebook went from early adopters in Harvard to masses, while Twitter to me is kind of still not really reaching masses (at least in posting data), and tons of little startups disappear. But they tried something. Look at the Color app that raised $40 million. Early adopters tried and gave up, it’s failing for now. But at least it’s innovation and that’s how the valley operates.
Loic Le Meur: Even Google is doing that all the time: they keep launching products, and kill them if they don’t grow: maps, gmail etc big hits while they killed Google Health and about to kill Google Buzz…
Ben Rooney: JEF – true, but one way to think of it. One EU piece of legislation should replace 27 separate pieces of national legislation. Of course in reality it doesn’t work that way
Comment From Christopher Gaudreau
What advice would you give to a first time entrepreneur in the “Planning” Stage? What are some key areas to focus on? and what areas don’t need as much attention?
Loic Le Meur: Great question Christopher
Ben Rooney: Agreed
Loic Le Meur: 1. don’t focus on the business plan (I know) it’s too early for that
Loic Le Meur: 2. focus on a small niche, white space you identify, a need that you think doesn’t have much people addressing it
Loic Le Meur: 3. something you really care about or have passion for is a plus
Loic Le Meur: 4. execute as fast as you can building something to address that narrow niche, even a little buggy
Ben Rooney: One question I was given to think about – there maybe a gap in the market, but is there a market in the gap?
Loic Le Meur: 5. launch super fast, Reid Hoffman of LinkedIn said “if you are not ashamed of your product when you launch it, you launched too late”
Loic Le Meur: 6. focus on the very little group of initial users of that product, make it a community, listen to any feedback
Comment From Saul
what you think about startup incubators like Techstars, Ycombinator ?
Loic Le Meur: 7. iterate on the feedback you get, that will make your product grow. If it doesn’t, you need to pivot or kill the idea and move to the next one
Loic Le Meur: I think all those incubators are great, and Governments should support them much more, we should have those in every City
Loic Le Meur: would be entrepreneurs and first timers need coaching
Ben Rooney: coaching is key. Start ups don’t only need money – they need help
Loic Le Meur: someone could actually take the Ycombinator model and do it for people who are even earlier, just considering starting something, and helping them. There is huge demand. So, they’re great programs. Let’s encourage them.
Comment From Suman Puri
what is your take on the upcoming business models ( technological /web start-ups) from rapidly developing countries like India? will they be able sustain growth in the net-world mostly dominated by developed countries? Do you see wide online market as offline?
Loic Le Meur: Oh, I don’t know anything about India unfortunately, I wish I would, but I went to Brazil recently and was super impressed
Loic Le Meur: It’s kind of the same as Europe in one way, that there are too many clones of Groupon or Zynga, I would prefer see try new things than copy too much, but I guess it’s the easy way
Loic Le Meur: I feel developing countries in Latam and other parts of the World are now catching up much faster than ever
Ben Rooney: India has a very young population – in the long term that could make it more of a market than China
Loic Le Meur: it’s very easy to keep pace with Silicon Valley now, just read the WSJ and http://www.techmeme.com
seriously, social networking and blogs make it very easy, so developing countries can be totally in sync. I think it’s coming and it’s great, then their markets are huge, so it’s fantastic. If I wasn’t doing what I am doing I would totally focus on them
Comment From Social-smart
Small businesses are realizing social media marketing isn’t just for BIG companies. How can they economically deploy a social media strategy too?
Loic Le Meur: OH that’s very easy
Ben Rooney: That is the great thing about social media – you don’t need a lot of money. You can build a huge following really quickly and incredibly cheaply.
Loic Le Meur: Since I get that question all the time, I recorded a series of 30 short videos for small businesses to learn social networking and how they can build their brands using it http://www.buildyourownbrand.tv/
Ben Rooney: Also small companies are much more nimble – they can react much faster.
Comment From Nic
Bonjour Loic, what do you think of the crazy valuations we are seeing these days ? Are these small techs truly worth more than GE ?
11:38
Loic Le Meur: good one.
11:38
Loic Le Meur: so I guess, we need to separate public companies from little startups
11:39
Loic Le Meur: I don’t think LinkedIn has a crazy valuation, it’s changing the world on how business hire people, it’s a massive shift (disclosure I am a shareholder 
11:39
Ben Rooney: I do question some of them though …
11:40
Ben Rooney: Zynga supposedly worth more than EA?
11:40
Loic Le Meur: for startups, yeah, is LinkedIn worth $500 million? Or is it normal that Color or Flipboard apps raise $50 million or so (meaning their valuations are $100 million or higher?)
11:40
Loic Le Meur: let’s put it this way, we have seen that movie before in 99, we should all be careful
11:41
Ben Rooney: I guess one problem we have is we don’t know what a tech recovery looks like
11:41
Loic Le Meur: Let’s separate companies who have the potential to change the World and others, yes, valuations are crazy these days especially for startups
11:41
Comment From JEF
GE was a very valuable manufactoring company. It is now a subsidized bank… I prefer LinkedIn any time!
11:41
Loic Le Meur: If Flipboard raised $60 million it means VCs expect to sell it for at least $300-400 million they probably think about a billion
11:41
Loic Le Meur: Not many companies reach that time of valuation long term, and keep it, see MySpace…
11:42
Loic Le Meur: So I guess there is just too much money on the market. But look, for entrepreneurs, it’s great news!
11:42
Loic Le Meur: Entrepreneurs, take advantage of these crazy money, go raise now! But if you are an investor or individual shareholder, beware…. Yes it’s crazy
11:42
Ben Rooney: Loic – do you think organizations like Second Market help in this?
11:43
Loic Le Meur: Ben, I think they do, clearly, providing liquidity early.
11:43
Loic Le Meur: Is it normal that Groupon goes public with most initial shareholders having made lots of money already?
11:43
Comment From Mayel @Babelverse
Loic: yes I understand, like how you pivoted Seesmic! I just see that there are many areas open to innovation and find it a pity when most everyone is focusing on todays ‘it thing’ be it web 2.0, mobile apps, cloud, data
11:44
Loic Le Meur: what is weird to me is when founders start exiting before the business is really a success yet. That’s a bad side effect IMO, but good for the founders…
11:45
Loic Le Meur: @Babelverse yeah, and I am pivoting again. I think it’s normal and it’s what any CEO should do, it’s like a sail boat, if the wind changes direction, you need to act as fast as possible, can’t sail against the wind.
11:45
Loic Le Meur: for Seesmic, the environment has dramatically changed with Twitter acquiring my competitors Tweetie and Tweetdeck, so I need to react as fast as I can or die
11:46
Loic Le Meur: Which I am doing, I am focusing on a new ecosystem, Salesforce, and helping enterprise and business users get CRM and social CRM mobile, already pivoted, keeping our assets.
11:46
Loic Le Meur: pivot or die 
11:47
Ben Rooney: Loic – I think we are running out of time. I have one last question …
11:47
Loic Le Meur: Saul, Blippy is interesting. They failed fast and the founder PUD, is already out
11:47
Loic Le Meur: I call this “the disposable startup” fail, give back money to investors and move on!
11:47
Loic Le Meur: go ahead Ben 
11:47
Ben Rooney: Le Web 2012 – what about Athens?
11:48
Ben Rooney: It doesn’t snow
11:48
Loic Le Meur: I actually had a nice contact from the major of Cannes team 
11:48
Loic Le Meur: sunny, too
11:48
Loic Le Meur: but Cameron’s team is VERY convincing helping us to move it for one year to London
11:49
Loic Le Meur: nothing decided, we are looking at the option for 2012, I like London, I think it’s a good idea, but we’re a small team (my wife!) so… .we will see